chances of bruiser, mounataineer, hilux?

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

what are the chances they will rerelease them? I have a stupid theory that they will be the last to be relreleased after tamiya has axhausted all rereleased classics then come the last 3 as an anniversary edition to the 3 speed and cost 2000 dollars MSRP, but once it gets in the hands of deaelrs cost 1000 dollars.....good posibility though aint it. :Tamiya1:

[DREADY]

We can all dream, Would be good though. Might get saving just in case!!

[shodog]

The High lift chassied Hilux is probably as close as your ever going to get to a re-re bruiser.

Look at it this way, there will be tons of bodies available for all those hammered Bruiser and Mountaineer chassis.

[[]Dlayer]

C'mon Tamiya, please re-release the bruiser/mounty. You guys can do it!

I like to dream.

[DREADY]

The High lift chassied Hilux is probably as close as your ever going to get to a re-re bruiser.

Look at it this way, there will be tons of bodies available for all those hammered Bruiser and Mountaineer chassis.

I'll be getting a couple of bodysets for sure, was to young to appreciate them when they first came out.
Have already got the old grey matter whizzing round on how to move that motor to allow for a decent interior. Cant wait.

[Larrio]

The re-release of the Bruiser is an unlikely possibility. If we could you wouldn't see the F350 Hi-lift then.

Remember that Tamiya is a plastic model company and the Bruiser came with a lot of out sourced metal parts.

[twisted]

The re-release of the Bruiser is an unlikely possibility. If we could you wouldn't see the F350 Hi-lift then.

Remember that Tamiya is a plastic model company and the Bruiser came with a lot of out sourced metal parts.

you of all the people on here would have the clearest insight on this subject but i say this, Tamiya being the HUGE company that it is can afford to make/outsource these parts, i would imagine anyway.

myself, iam happy with the high lift but wouldn't mind seeing a re re 3 speed.(psss im really waiting for the wild willy)

[Larrio]

I have the clearest insight, hence I say that it is an unlikely possibility. If I said "impossible" and then we did come out with a re-release, then everyone would shun me. haha

As for whether or not it is affordable, I wouldn't have the slightest clue since i'm not in production, From a marketing standpoint it would be unfeasible in terms of cost to outsource a product and then introduce it to a market where it will affect the sales your of the current existing line-up (Toyota and F350). You know how kids always tell their parents that they can afford this and that? Same analogy applies here. It's easy to comment on things that we don't have exact numbers on. I for one agree with you and feel that it's affordable or at least possible to do so. However given the choice, I still wouldn't do it.

Auto manufactures can easily bring back an old once-popular car but its more effective in the long run to re-release an updated version of the original versus the exact duplicate of the original itself (VW Bug, Nissan Skyline, Mustang, Camaro, etc)

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

larrio,
oh well I guess we can dream LOL.....your right though a car manufacture can bring back an old detroit muscle car, but they do not good point about that one. Alot of folks would love for ford to bring back an old car and would buy it, but would the new masses buy it is the question. Oh well I personally would not mind a re release limited edition anniversary get up and willing to pay 1500 for it if tamiya made them. Oh well I guess we settle for the high lift with hilux body will do me. Tamiya already has me in debt right now with the tamtech stuff, hilux, XB high lift, among other minor kits I plan to get.

[shodog]

It's easy to look at the vintage 3 speeders with rose colored glasses on but let face it, they had a lot of durability issues.

On one hand you release an exact reporduction and when people start to bash them, they find out how weak they are and start to complain

On the other, you release a truck with all the problem areas fixed (essentially what the high lift is) and people complain because it's not like the original.

I say let the calls for a Bruier re-re subside. Tamiya gave us the high lift. It's really the modern day take on a classic.

[janderson]

It's easy to look at the vintage 3 speeders with rose colored glasses on but let face it, they had a lot of durability issues.

On one hand you release an exact reporduction and when people start to bash them, they find out how weak they are and start to complain

On the other, you release a truck with all the problem areas fixed (essentially what the high lift is) and people complain because it's not like the original.

I say let the calls for a Bruier re-re subside. Tamiya gave us the high lift. It's really the modern day take on a classic.

Very well put! :first:

[Thorsteenster]

My only gripes with the High Lift are I think they could have done a more realistic frame and better looking axles, or atleast a non-steering rear axle. Instead of having everything original like on the H/BB/B/M, the HL is recycled parts which is fine for many, but I don't think quite cuts it for 3 speed purists. With todays materials they could have made somthing in plastics that more resembled the Bruiser but with the durability of a modern truck.

[shodog]

the HL is recycled parts which is fine for many, but I don't think quite cuts it for 3 speed purists.


I don't get this comment. what is recycled?

[Thorsteenster]

Yeah, sorry. Not so much recyled but adapted from other models. The semi frame and trans, TLT axles, Juggy body, and wheels.

[twisted]

Yeah, sorry. Not so much recyled but adapted from other models. The semi frame and trans, TLT axles, Juggy body, and wheels.

those are not tlt axles.

[shodog]

Yeah, sorry. Not so much recyled but adapted from other models. The semi frame and trans, TLT axles, Juggy body, and wheels.

I say if something is working, why reinvent the wheel? for the F350, I am fine with the frame configuration as it' isn';t much different than what you would find on the real F350.

You have to look at simple economics. It takes a lot of money to bring something to market. Even the trivial stuff like the printing of the manual or the box design.

I think people think of Tamiya as some giant conglomerate like General Motors with Vast resources of Money at their disposal, but they are not. They are a company that survives on turning a profit and if they can use proven existing designs to create a new truck then more power to them.

The R/C market is very volatile. There are tough times ahead evidenced by Associted's sell out to thunder tiger, Losi using China to make most of their stuff and Tamiya America's downsizing.

I'm glad that tamiya came out with something so cool instead of just another variation of the Subaru Imprexxa on a tt-01 chassis

[Larrio]

In regards to the transmission, I thought it was a smart idea to put an evolved 3-speed transmission from the Semis onto the Hi-lift. This way you have a drivetrain that you know is proven, durable, and reliable. As for realism, it's a R/C car, so starting out from the box puts it at a disadvantage (in comparison to a real-life example).

For the body, why make another expensive mold when you can re-tool the original for more detail and cleanup the lines? The cost saved in production is cost saved when passed down to the consumer.

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

In regards to the transmission, I thought it was a smart idea to put an evolved 3-speed transmission from the Semis onto the Hi-lift. This way you have a drivetrain that you know is proven, durable, and reliable. As for realism, it's a R/C car, so starting out from the box puts it at a disadvantage (in comparison to a real-life example).

For the body, why make another expensive mold when you can re-tool the original for more detail and cleanup the lines? The cost saved in production is cost saved when passed down to the consumer.

wasnt the old 3 speed a proven tranny also though? I never heard anyone (im still newbie) of breaking them.

[shodog]

wasnt the old 3 speed a proven tranny also though? I never heard anyone (im still newbie) of breaking them.

you're kidding right? The spur gear were the first thing to go then it was the metal gears inside that would get chewed. remeber these were sitting on broze bushings which would after a while get sloppy and start mashing gears.

The semi truck tranny is such a better design.

[bobtail74]

I second the notion that the original 3speed design had several flaws if you wanted to "USE" it. I had a Mountaineer that I locked in 4WD and liked to drive it in mud and such. I got tired of replacing parts so I sold it to a friend of mine. These are cool if you want to admire the technology and tooling and be gentle with them. If you want to use your 4WD R/C for what the design suggests the High Lift is miles ahead.

I love the fact that Tamiya has been rereleasing many popular models, it has brought new life to a couple of my runners. I do appreciate the business side of it however and understand how unlikely it would be for Tamiya to rerelease one of the early, heavy, metal kits. I say this having been brought into the R/C and Tamiya comminities simultaneously with a Rough Rider about 30 years ago. I have enough parts to build a few of these, they are great to look at but not much fun to drive compared to more modern plastic vehicles.

[tc1cat]

I agree with keeping the new design in place. After watching a buddy thoroughly trash his F350, I would never even consider doing the things he did with either my Bruiser or Blazer. Just give us some different bodies to use on it and I think everyone would be happy. PLEASE bring back the Blazing Blazer body. These are much too expensive to bash any more. If GM is being a problem with its logo, just leave it off and let the aftermarket guys make it!! Really any type of Chevy truck body would be GREAT!! Wild thought- how about an el Camino body?? I hate the lexan bodies- GIVE ME A NICE HARD PLASTIC BODY ANY DAY!!