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paintstikker
12-10-2007, 07:55 PM
People have asked me a few times what I want re-released by Tamiya, and I'd have to say I really want the Wild One/ FAV to come out.

Although it doesn't go for a great deal of money, I still don't feel like spending 350-450 dollars for that kit. Of course there are other more interesting kits out there, performance wise, but the FAV is my favorite being pretty darn scale.

So, what do you guys want (besides the obvious, pretty much every one wants a [original] bruiser or something ;-)

Suprachrgd82
12-11-2007, 09:54 AM
Though this topic is not 3-speed related, and may be subject to deletion.....


Supra agrees and would like to see a Wild One RR. The FAV comes with friction shox, which really aren't that impressive. The Wild One has the better shox and aluminum front towers, so that would have my vote.

monster_beetle
12-11-2007, 11:28 AM
I also want to see a wild one or a FAV. But most of all a sand scorcher or rough rider, but that is very unlikely (going to cry now)

Suprachrgd82
12-11-2007, 12:03 PM
In looking at Tamiya's site, it looks like a repro Countach and Falcon are coming soon.

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=57105

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=58401

The Countach would be pretty cool, but the Falcon? Who wants a Falcon?

Larrio
12-11-2007, 03:09 PM
Think of something you really want and then we seem to make the exact opposite.

It leaves me speechless at times.

Suprachrgd82
12-11-2007, 03:44 PM
Think of something you really want and then we seem to make the exact opposite.

It leaves me speechless at times.

Larrio

Do you have much say in what Tamiya will be re-releasing?

Does Tamiya do any market research to see what is in demand for a re-release?

Is it Tamiya JP that has the only say in what will roll off production lines?

I, personally, appreciate the feedback and information you provide. It must be difficult dealing with all of us complainers, as we never run out of "why don't they"s. You seem to be a good channel for directing consumer feedback, so I truly hope that you have a high level of involvement in the manufacturing directions Tamiya takes.

trailqeen
12-11-2007, 03:49 PM
how about a sand scorcher

spankrjs
12-11-2007, 04:03 PM
Blazing Blazer PLEASE:first::first:

mustang46555
12-11-2007, 04:18 PM
I know it isn't a 3 spd but how about a Blitzer Beetle?

Larrio
12-11-2007, 04:33 PM
Larrio

Do you have much say in what Tamiya will be re-releasing?

Does Tamiya do any market research to see what is in demand for a re-release?

Is it Tamiya JP that has the only say in what will roll off production lines?

I, personally, appreciate the feedback and information you provide. It must be difficult dealing with all of us complainers, as we never run out of "why don't they"s. You seem to be a good channel for directing consumer feedback, so I truly hope that you have a high level of involvement in the manufacturing directions Tamiya takes.

There is a lot of politics involved, that's all I can say.

We have a lot of say in terms of new products and re-releases but that doesn't mean it will happen after the information is sent to corporate. :LOL: You should see the list that we collect based on forums, hobby shows, retailer/distributor feedback. It certainly makes me look bad when nothing happens though.

The good news is that our restructuring is to revamp our current operations for more U.S. based products. So with that in mind i'm hoping that 2008 will be a good start. We will have new ads in R/C magazines, hope to participate in rock crawling, and have new vehicles that you guys will love.

And honestly, I don't mind complaining. Why settle for less? We'll never get anywhere if we are always satisfied with mediocrity. I believe in a hands-on approach with the consumers. And I realize it may be somewhat of a liability at times but my hope is that it fosters a sense that we as a company care about the people that buy our product. The fact is that sometimes you just need someone to yell at and i'm glad to be that person on the front line. I don't mind simply because i'm probably just as angry or frustrated as you are. But I believe that if I keep expressing my ideas & thoughts along with those of the consumer that eventually something will get through.

2 years ago, everyone would have laughed at the idea of the following vehicles coming back: Frog, Hornet, Lunchbox, Metallic Edition Midnight Pumpkin, Ford Hi-Lift, and Toyota Hi-lux.

monster_beetle
12-12-2007, 01:42 AM
Yeah, that falcon is coming. But looking buttugly, absolutely no honring to the original.

backtomyroots
12-12-2007, 10:30 PM
Re-release top choices for me:


Blackfoot
Monster Beetle
Wild One


Come on Tamiya, send another Blackfoot my way so that I can keep the one I have NIB.

:Tamiya1:

paintstikker
12-12-2007, 11:35 PM
Hmm some good comments here...

Seems like most people want a Monster Beetle or Wild One, oddly enough. I can't see the blackfoot coming back; I know the Brat & Frog have been reissued but there are 3 versions of the blackfoot now. Personally I believe the King Blackfoot is the best performer of the 3.

Now, there have been some very nice releases in the past year(s) but there have a been a couple I think are useless because there isn't much value to them (falcon, what is up with that?!)

monster_beetle
12-13-2007, 12:25 AM
Yeah but the original blackfoot and monster beetle is way more fun to drive. And looks the best of all...

DREADY
12-13-2007, 12:49 AM
How about a nice funky Sandrail combining all the elements of past cars gone

Sort of a wild one, Fav, rough rider combo.

Lets face it they are never going to re-release an srb.

So build a new one!

Nice long travel shocks on the front and rear maybee even a dif in the rear. Big Sand paddles
Nice litle driver giving it the beans.

A sort of Srb for the 21st century.

I'd even design it for you. or we could have a competiton you get tons of interest.
And lob a three speed in for good measure, a nice robust gearbox with a hot motor that would fly on the dunes.

Now that would be some car. i might even build one myself.

Suprachrgd82
12-13-2007, 10:46 AM
Trying to predict Tamiya....

I wouldn't forsee a RR of the SRB chassis or a Blackfoot. Tamiya has given us the Buggy Champ and King Blackfoot. Those would seem to sufice as the RR of those vehicles. The SRB would have to be subbed out for alum parts, and as Larrio has iterated for the Bruiser, the supplier is no longer available.

The Avante and Faclon are re-bodies on an updated chassis. Hornt, Frog, Brat, Lunchbox, Hotshot, and Grasshopper have also been RR'd. Check those off, too.

I really think Paintstikker is quite accurate in identifying the FAV or Wild one. They are plastic chassis, which Tamiya does in house, and those two are just among the few that have not yet been revisited.

Than again, the OG Pajero is based on parts already in production; Brat wheels, LB chassis. All that is left is the body.

Larrio
12-13-2007, 12:01 PM
hrm, SRB = Sand Scorcher?

I guess it's time to beg at the next meeting. heh

monster_beetle
12-13-2007, 01:13 PM
Yeah, c'mon you could do it. We're all supporting you, keep that in mind. I think the whole collectorsworld would run onto the streets singing and crying from happiness when you manage to have a new sand scorcher (and then not such a tamtech thingy ;))

ZenMoto
12-13-2007, 01:18 PM
Personally, I'd really like to see a re-release of the 959 Rally. That and the Bruiser were the two vehicles that, as a kid, were simply unobtanium. I also really liked the Wild One and FAV, even though I'm not a fan of the "tub" chassis cars that much. ...they just looked more scale than some others to me.

I'd also love to see re-releases of some of the metal parts kits (Sand Scorcher, Rough Rider, Super Champ, etc.) ...but then, who wouldn't?. lol

Larrio
12-13-2007, 03:05 PM
Maybe start some sort of online petition and mass flood hobby stores and consumer trade shows with demands to bring back the Sand Scorcher. :lol:

william
12-13-2007, 03:39 PM
They could easily bring back the Sand Rover beach buggy on a M chassis or a shortened F103 GT chassis

I can't wait any longer so I'm doing it myself with a Cox buggy body and M chassis.

janderson
12-13-2007, 04:01 PM
hrm, SRB = Sand Scorcher?

I guess it's time to beg at the next meeting. heh

I've been bugging on that one for a while!

GreatDane
12-14-2007, 04:29 AM
If the Sand Scorcher is to be re-released(ish) i think it will be based on the TamTech Gear GB-02 chassis just like the Rough Rider. Personally I would not mind though........A 1/16 lexan Bug body? Cuuuuute!

As for the 1/12 Porsche 959 and the 1/12 Toyota Celica Gr. B rallycar for that matter I think they may end up being based on the 4wd TamTech Gear GB-03 chassis just like they based the Porsche 934 and the Ferrari 288 GTO on the GB-01 chassis. You see now that would be neat! :dance:

The Wild One gets my vote over the Fast Attack Vehicle (FAV) any day.......Yup, I like the Wild One too.

And now back to what this forum is really about; the 3 speeds.....I don’t think the Bruiser (item# 58048) or the Mountaineer (item# 58111) will be re-released now that Tamiya has released the F350 High Lift and the Hilux. I mean now they have a nice rig/truck 3 speed chassis why release the Bruiser on the old chassis? I don’t see it.......Sorry guys!

But what I would like to see is some more 3 speed releases of some sort; being it a rig or 4x4 truck/suv......Not re-releases though but how about a Land Rover/Range Rover or a Toyota Land Cruiser?

Just my 25 cents...

monster_beetle
12-14-2007, 12:35 PM
I agree with the WW over the FAV. I heard they're busy with a 959 rere, and that's something that is going to be bought by me. Those are also really amazing cars.

paintstikker
12-14-2007, 10:47 PM
Yeah but the original blackfoot and monster beetle is way more fun to drive. And looks the best of all...


Well the original blackfoot is basically the same as the 2nd issue King Blackfoot, just different chassis color and different body. The big change is into the Blackfoot Xtreme, using the dagger chassis. I'd have to say the first two issues are much more fun than the Xtreme having a better chassis/suspension design, just as well.

paintstikker
12-14-2007, 10:52 PM
But what I would like to see is some more 3 speed releases of some sort; being it a rig or 4x4 truck/suv......Not re-releases though but how about a Land Rover/Range Rover or a Toyota Land Cruiser?

Just my 25 cents...


That brings up another subject, and is something that would be agreed upon by just about all Tamiya fans. I'd like to see some other vehicles with a 3 speed, and not just semis and pickups.

While on the subject, I'm trying to work out a scale jeep using a WW body and 1.5' rims (semi rims/tires as donor masters) and a 3 speed tranny. It's somewhat hard being the body isn't to scale: it's short, not quite wide enough, and the wheel wells aren't proportional. The wheel wells are easy, but I only do body mods on semis. The XR311 wheels might be used as well, I'm trying to figure out the best scale fit that doesn't look like a toyota car or an off road vehicle.

Mouton
12-15-2007, 01:32 AM
SRB = Special Racing Buggy

Rough Rider, Sand Scorcher and Ford F-150 Ranger constitute the SRB-series. Some include the Super Champ since it is based on the same chasis (but did not feature the waterproof radio box).

One car I would like to see again is the Willy's Wheeler (Honda City Turbo). It was an odd duck at the time and would be so today as well. I think it would do well with the younger people in this hobby. While most nostalgic hobbyists are into off roaders I also appreciate the on roaders and know that there are several out there that only collect those models.

I am OK as it is with the SRBs and the first four threespeeders beeing out of production. If Tamiya would release them again it will damage their reputation on the collector's scene. Personally, I like to think that there are som rare gems out there that, once you do find one of them, makes you extremely happy.

Finally, I must ask, who was laughing at the Ford F-350 High-Lift two years ago? That must have aleady been in the works by then.

shodog
12-15-2007, 09:05 AM
The Wild One gets my vote over the Fast Attack Vehicle (FAV) any day.......Yup, I like the Wild One too.


I agree with the WW over the FAV.

I can't believe I'm reading such blaphemous words. The FAV is way way way cooler than the wild one.

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/tc_userimages/34/img34_10162002103055_6.jpg

Suprachrgd82
12-15-2007, 11:24 AM
I can't believe I'm reading such blaphemous words. The FAV is way way way cooler than the wild one.

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/tc_userimages/34/img34_10162002103055_6.jpg

The Wild One has oil shocks and better front shock towers than the FAV. For this reason, it is more desirable.

Additionaslly, it appears that the photo you have is closer to Wild One front end, with FAV livery.

monster_beetle
12-15-2007, 03:08 PM
I like the FAV also, but that army buggy thingy isn't my thing. So the wild one goes over the FAV for me.

Mouton
12-16-2007, 06:57 AM
The Wild One has oil shocks and better front shock towers than the FAV. For this reason, it is more desirable.
Better does not necessarliy mean more desirable. :Good Point:

Take a look at the off road threespeeders for instance. The Hilux/Blazing Blazer are not as "capable" off road as the Bruiser/Mountaineer, but still as desirable to the collectors.

Old_Busted_Hotness
12-16-2007, 07:30 PM
Sand Rover or Holiday Buggy! Let's see some more cool scale cars. If we can't have the SRB's (and let's face it, it ain't gonna happen) then let's do one of those :Tamiya1:

DREADY
12-17-2007, 12:35 AM
Sand Rover gets my vote too. Wish i hadn't sold mine now.

shodog
12-17-2007, 07:36 AM
The Wild One has oil shocks and better front shock towers than the FAV. For this reason, it is more desirable.

Additionaslly, it appears that the photo you have is closer to Wild One front end, with FAV livery.

yes my FAV does have a wildone suspension set up. In addition it has a thorp drivetrain that address's the weakness of the stock pieces.

Now don't get me wrong the wild one is a great car, I have a new built one also. I like the FAV better simply for the more scale looks. the hood, driver and interior is hard plastic and is more realistic looking. The wheels are actual replicas of real wheels unlike the ones found on the wildone.

AZOREAN
12-17-2007, 01:49 PM
SRB would be my vote.

cjs
12-19-2007, 05:59 AM
The Fox

Was my first RC car and will always be my favourite.

Have 3 already, but could use more :)

monster_beetle
12-23-2007, 01:49 PM
Ok, please re-re the monster beetle, as mine is really wanting to go in retirement. And today someone smashed to body :help::dwarf:

DREADY
12-24-2007, 12:32 AM
Ok, please re-re the monster beetle, as mine is really wanting to go in retirement. And today someone smashed to body :help::dwarf:

But it was terrible! and no i'm not joking it had one good thing going for it the SHELL. everything else was usless. that orv chassis just cant carry off those big wheels the steering was useless.
Now i'm not knocking the orv chassis at all the frog was fabulous
Just never liked the monster beetle blackfoot thing, it was an easy way out to get new models. with minimal fuss.

oh and dont forget the rear body mounts they should have made them out of twiglets they would have been stronger!

right where's my spade! :-)

monster_beetle
12-24-2007, 06:53 AM
I agree about the rear body mounts, but they are some serious fun to drive. I never go without my monster beetle...

Larrio
01-10-2008, 02:03 PM
I remember the first time I saw a monster beetle in person. = O

Gomjaba
01-10-2008, 05:48 PM
Oh yea - PLEASE the Monster Beetle :)

nissanguy8
01-18-2008, 12:23 AM
My first kit was the Subaru Brat which I bought for $69+ tax when I was like 11 years old. I almost crapped my pants when I found out they were re-issuing it!!!

I bought 3 of them! There are so may kits I wish they would re-issue.

King Cab
IMSA 300ZX
Honda City Turbo
Bruiser
Orig Pajero
280zx
orig NSX kit

Those orig bruisers with the all metal chassis would be awesome to have re-released!!! They don't make them like they use to. It would allow people to now be able to afford it since a NIB cost over $2000 nowadays!

The king cab was a great chassis in its day, nice diff, nice suspension and it handled really well. The nissan b and toyota bodies were just awesome! I am still hanging on to my fully restored king cab and hi lux with a brand new in the box bodies.

I wonder whats coming next for this year since I got the Mar issue of RC car action and they put an ad on there saying they will conquer new ground in 08.

violetmind
03-06-2008, 04:15 AM
If it's worth anything, here's my vote (in no particular order...I love them all!!):

Wild One
Fox
Blazing Blazer
Super Champ
Rough Rider
Toyota Toms

hornets3
03-07-2008, 03:42 AM
I really want a i think it was called a TR-15T racing truck which was nitro, it had like a roll cage and everything, i still have the catalogue with it in from when i was a kid back then could never afford it!
I think i got a chevy s-10 for xmas which was still cool and my first tamiya kit to!

Found a pic if it works its item number (44001) I believe it was tamiyas first nitro car before the tgx, but it wasnt very successful.
I think the wheels were alloy and it had quite a lot of nice parts, anyone know if any are avaliable new in box??


http://www.tamiyausa.com/images/product/255/44001/gallery_1.jpg


The monster beetle and king cab would be cool to and i always wanted a bull head to!!!:Tamiya1:

Thanks

Lee.

podfreak
03-07-2008, 07:32 AM
i would like to see the XR311.....i never got one.....

Larrio
03-07-2008, 08:34 AM
i would like to see the XR311.....i never got one.....

You mean this?

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=58004

We had quite a few of these up until last year. No one really bought any so we blew them out.

podfreak
03-07-2008, 09:10 AM
You mean this?

http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=58004

We had quite a few of these up until last year. No one really bought any so we blew them out.

ahhhhhhhh!!!
DARN!!!!
i did not get one...do you have any left hiding?pleasse?

Suprachrgd82
03-07-2008, 09:22 AM
Ultimate Hobbies has a few dusty kits on the shelf....

podfreak
03-07-2008, 09:42 AM
Ultimate Hobbies has a few dusty kits on the shelf....

do you have a link that you can provide if possible?

JOCKTHEGLIDE
03-07-2008, 10:58 AM
do you have a link that you can provide if possible?

maybe he means in their store in vegas or something because I cant find it online....

wyoming
03-07-2008, 11:39 AM
For me the answer is one vehicle that I love most of everything Tamiya has done: The Jeep Wrangler, sure the Pajero is a good start and I'll buy a bunch but it doesn't exactly excite me like a Jeep, even better than a reissue would be a current Rubicon 4 door unlimited on a scale chassis with two proper axles...mmm also wouldn't mind seeing the Blazing Blazer on the Hilift chassis.

Suprachrgd82
03-07-2008, 10:09 PM
do you have a link that you can provide if possible?

I plan to go this weekend. I'll let you know how many they have, and the price.

podfreak
03-08-2008, 12:14 AM
I plan to go this weekend. I'll let you know how many they have, and the price.

thanks...,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Suprachrgd82
03-11-2008, 10:28 AM
I plan to go this weekend. I'll let you know how many they have, and the price.

Sorry for the bad news....I didn't see them on the shelves anywhere. Give them a call and perhaps one of the employees may have better luck, as they know the store layout better than myself.

mustangswan
04-03-2008, 01:15 PM
I ALWAYS wanted a Fast Attack and could not afford one when I was a kid. I dont care if it was not the best handling. I bought 2 Hornets when they came out. That was my first r/c car. Those things are anything but beefy, but I dont care. I love those things. The FAV was just COOL! I goto youtube and watch the videos of them. The other car/ series would be the SS/RR. those were pretty cool also. I would buy a those.
Just my 2 cents worth.

secretsg
04-07-2008, 08:23 AM
Porsche 959/Celica Gr.B in 1/10th scale with proper rally suspension. In the same spirit as the 30th Anniversary edition 934RSR.

blazerbogger
04-13-2008, 12:31 AM
Definitely an original Bruiser or Hilux, but Tamiya wouldn't even start thinking about thinking about reissuing something like that because it doesn't have much play value due to the incredible realism. Instead, they have produced a chunk of plastic that is no different than the Hilift crap. Come on, play value isn't a necessity.

Larrio
04-14-2008, 05:02 PM
Definitely an original Bruiser or Hilux, but Tamiya wouldn't even start thinking about thinking about reissuing something like that because it doesn't have much play value due to the incredible realism. Instead, they have produced a chunk of plastic that is no different than the Hilift crap. Come on, play value isn't a necessity.

For the record, it was considered as a re-release. And the idea wasn't scrapped because "it doesn't have much play value". Thank you, come again.

By the way :welcomeani: ! What a lovely first post.

JOCKTHEGLIDE
04-14-2008, 06:30 PM
For the record, it was considered as a re-release. And the idea wasn't scrapped because "it doesn't have much play value". Thank you, come again.

By the way :welcomeani: ! What a lovely first post.

larrio,
I just had a heart attack man...play value man........................there goes another heart attack. im dying here I think tamiya (you guys) will release it for sure in the future I dont have no DOUBT about it. (please dont prove me wrong though just in case)

Larrio
04-14-2008, 08:17 PM
larrio,
I just had a heart attack man...play value man........................there goes another heart attack. im dying here I think tamiya (you guys) will release it for sure in the future I dont have no DOUBT about it. (please dont prove me wrong though just in case)

It's been considered, but highly unlikely. I've heard that the molds aren't in production shape any longer (unofficial). Another thing is that since most of the kit was outsourced at the time, the current modern day costs would be quite astronomical.

I was referring to blazerbogger's "play value" comment, I'm not sure if you mistook what I was trying to say. We CONSIDERED (past tense) the Bruiser in the past, prior to the release of the Hi-Lift. A good example of this is 1:1 scale BMWs. The E30 M3 was considered by many purists the best M3 ever made, yet I don't think BMW is going to re-release a E30 when they are well on to a E92 chassis. Which to original die-hard enthusiasts isn't as "pure" but in terms of technological advancements, features, safety, etc are more suitable for the market from a business standpoint. The other re-releases such as the Frog, Hornet, etc don't apply because newer, updated variations haven't been reproduced or redesigned.

mustangswan
04-26-2008, 12:07 AM
It's been considered, but highly unlikely. I've heard that the molds aren't in production shape any longer (unofficial). Another thing is that since most of the kit was outsourced at the time, the current modern day costs would be quite astronomical.

I was referring to blazerbogger's "play value" comment, I'm not sure if you mistook what I was trying to say. We CONSIDERED (past tense) the Bruiser in the past, prior to the release of the Hi-Lift. A good example of this is 1:1 scale BMWs. The E30 M3 was considered by many purists the best M3 ever made, yet I don't think BMW is going to re-release a E30 when they are well on to a E92 chassis. Which to original die-hard enthusiasts isn't as "pure" but in terms of technological advancements, features, safety, etc are more suitable for the market from a business standpoint. The other re-releases such as the Frog, Hornet, etc don't apply because newer, updated variations haven't been reproduced or redesigned.

The Hornet was updated to the Super Hornet that used many parts from the orignal, but looked like it tried to fix the tub breaking where the axle pivots attached the rear axle.

The Fast Attack was never updated and would be Great to be released as the orignal. Not because it was a super performer, but because it was COOL AND DIFFERENT. I have a Striker, I really dont think there is anything special about it and really could care less if it was ever re-released.

speedemall
11-09-2008, 10:54 AM
I'd like to see the

Porsche 959 rally
Celica GRB
PIAA porsche 911
Jaccs Honda Accord
Volkswagen GTI

PRONOVA
12-21-2008, 03:50 PM
a big wig or hot shot would be cool.

btomascik
01-14-2009, 10:21 PM
I am 33 years old and started off with a Tamiya frog. I have owned roughly 45 Tamiya cars. My newest is the Keen Hawk.

All I want from Tamiya is the greatest 2wd force they ever made! The one the only......The Legendary Tamiya FOX!!!!

The Fire Dragon and Neo Falcon?

What about the Fox????

I see the Boomerang is being reissued! Please let the next one be the Fox!

Does anyone know if this is in the works?

If you have any information please email me at btomascik@aol.com

I just bought a NIB one on Ebay last year for $460. I built it and am currently running it along with my 2 other Foxes.

Long Live Tamiya!!! Let's hope they have recaputured the EASY, SIMPLE, FUN days of the RC hobby. THe new gas cars are cool but way to pricey to have fun ripping them up!

Brian Tomascik

btomascik
01-14-2009, 10:30 PM
One more thing fellas. What are your thoughts on ESC's? I personally hate them. They are too expensive and take away from the fun of driving the car as fast as you can and then slamming it in reverse and spinning them out. I understand their justification for them is that you will save your gears but I really didn't mind spending $6 to $12 dollars to replace them every few months.


What do you guys think?

Brian